From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Mon Jun 7 14:34:23 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Mon Jun 7 14:34:25 2004 Subject: [MT-users] Link redirects and embedded URLs Message-ID: <20040607133423.GX14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> I've finally got around to learning a bit more about MT from a user perspective and have some minor things niggling me. I wonder if you experts can help: * people's links in comments are obscured as redirects; I know this is to put off spammers, but I'm wondering if it's possible to configure this off somehow? I can't remember if I installed this or whether it's built into MT :-) * when people comment on your blogs does the email MT sends out have the full URL or just the /cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi ... bit? Mine only has the latter. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "If dana loved me, then I would take a trip to the moon." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Mon Jun 7 14:56:59 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Mon Jun 7 14:57:00 2004 Subject: [MT-users] Link stripping Message-ID: <20040607135658.GY14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> I've tried leaving a comment with a link blah in it and it's being stripped. According to the docs, http://paulm.com/mt/docs/mtmanual_sanitize.html#sanitize:%20cleaning%20up%20incoming%20data it shouldn't be doing this as is allowed. I've tried changing both my weblog's config as well as the master with no luck. Is anyone else seeing inability to leave linked comments? Paul From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Mon Jun 7 15:23:12 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Mon Jun 7 15:23:13 2004 Subject: [MT-users] Link stripping In-Reply-To: <20040607135658.GY14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> References: <20040607135658.GY14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Message-ID: <20040607142312.GZ14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Je 2004-06-07 14:56:59 +0100, Paul Makepeace skribis: > I've tried leaving a comment with a link blah in it > and it's being stripped. According to the docs, > http://paulm.com/mt/docs/mtmanual_sanitize.html#sanitize:%20cleaning%20up%20incoming%20data > it shouldn't be doing this as is allowed. I've tried > changing both my weblog's config as well as the master with no luck. > > Is anyone else seeing inability to leave linked comments? Ah, it's the: "Should visitors be able to include HTML in their comments? If not, all HTML entered will be stripped out." option under toward end of Weblog Config->Preferences. Paul -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "What is dVDA? A cupful of pens." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ From jemfiner at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jun 7 19:24:43 2004 From: jemfiner at blueyonder.co.uk (Jem Finer) Date: Mon Jun 7 19:24:39 2004 Subject: [MT-users] greatest hits In-Reply-To: <20040607142312.GZ14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> References: <20040607135658.GY14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> <20040607142312.GZ14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Message-ID: does anyone know if there is a way to get MT to create links to the most popular bits of a blog ? I'm sure this is a tall order seeing as how mostly you get a month worth at a time ? cheers Jem From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Mon Jun 7 20:44:00 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Mon Jun 7 20:44:02 2004 Subject: [MT-users] greatest hits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040607194400.GP14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Je 2004-06-07 19:24:43 +0100, Jem Finer skribis: > does anyone know if there is a way to get MT to create links to the > most popular bits of a blog ? I'm sure this is a tall order seeing as > how mostly you get a month worth at a time ? I've wondered about this as well. Part of the problem is that most people who follow a blog hit the thing regularly looking at the home page. So the webserver sees a request for "home page" and dutifully serves it up (or if not, I get some pain :-) There isn't thus a log of what people are looking at specifically, whether they're a Cosmolog junkie hitting refresh all day or someone who drops back every now & then and reads all the entries on the page. As you say, there are monthly archives which people could request. But then your audience is people who would actually look at that which is probably not a sample of what's being read. And you've got to factor in search engines anyway. Here's one idea. MT has this idea of "Entry Body", "Extended Body", and "Excerpt". If you put text in the Extended Body you'll have a link "Continue reading [blog title]". (See June 06 entry in http://paulm.com/inchoate/ ) (You can use the Excerpt rather than relying on MT taking the first 40 or so words from the Entry Body. A teaser, in essence.) So by using the Extended Body you're in effect forcing the reader to perform a click, and thus a request, and thus a log, and thus a trackable behaviour. All sites have a /stats/ directory, btw, in case you didn't know. The most popular requests are the final report on that page. HTH, Paul -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "What is green? Because the chinese menu always catches on fire." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ From jemfiner at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jun 8 00:39:28 2004 From: jemfiner at blueyonder.co.uk (Jem Finer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:39:24 2004 Subject: [MT-users] greatest hits In-Reply-To: <20040607194400.GP14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> References: <20040607194400.GP14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Message-ID: That's very cunning . . . and the stats are interesting . . . never looked at them before. Might try it out thanks Jem On 7 Jun 2004, at 20:44, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Je 2004-06-07 19:24:43 +0100, Jem Finer skribis: >> does anyone know if there is a way to get MT to create links to the >> most popular bits of a blog ? I'm sure this is a tall order seeing as >> how mostly you get a month worth at a time ? > > I've wondered about this as well. > > Part of the problem is that most people who follow a blog hit the thing > regularly looking at the home page. So the webserver sees a request for > "home page" and dutifully serves it up (or if not, I get some pain :-) > > There isn't thus a log of what people are looking at specifically, > whether they're a Cosmolog junkie hitting refresh all day or someone > who > drops back every now & then and reads all the entries on the page. > > As you say, there are monthly archives which people could request. But > then your audience is people who would actually look at that which is > probably not a sample of what's being read. And you've got to factor in > search engines anyway. > > Here's one idea. MT has this idea of "Entry Body", "Extended Body", and > "Excerpt". If you put text in the Extended Body you'll have a link > "Continue reading [blog title]". (See June 06 entry in > http://paulm.com/inchoate/ ) (You can use the Excerpt rather than > relying on MT taking the first 40 or so words from the Entry Body. A > teaser, in essence.) > > So by using the Extended Body you're in effect forcing the reader to > perform a click, and thus a request, and thus a log, and thus a > trackable behaviour. > > All sites have a /stats/ directory, btw, in case you didn't know. The > most popular requests are the final report on that page. > > HTH, > Paul > > -- > Paul Makepeace .............................. > http://paulm.com/inchoate/ > > "What is green? Because the chinese menu always catches on fire." > -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ > > _______________________________________________ > MT-users mailing list > MT-users@paulm.com > http://paulm.com/mm/listinfo/mt-users > > > http://cosmolog.org.uk http://longplayer.org http://elrino.co.uk http://www.zerogenie.org Longplayer live stream : http://longplayer.org/lp_new_site/new_listening_posts/stream.html From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Tue Jun 8 17:48:49 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Tue Jun 8 17:48:51 2004 Subject: [MT-users] Link redirects and embedded URLs In-Reply-To: References: <20040607133423.GX14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Message-ID: <20040608164849.GM26323@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Je 2004-06-07 14:45:05 +0100, David Jennings skribis: > > * when people comment on your blogs does the email MT sends out have > > the full URL or just the /cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi ... bit? Mine only > > has the latter. > > Mine too. Dug around a bit in the code. No nice solution (but see below!) It's because MT maintains a master CGIPath variable that applies to *all* sites. I have left it blank so the domain bit is left off. If I set it, everyone's site would have that URL and it would be stinky: it would look like every other shabby multi-MT system that's obviously hosted at one point. For the most part leaving CGIPath blank works as href's don't need the domain if they're referenced within that domain. However when displaying a URL to a user the missing domain is a problem, e.g. on the Trackback page or via emails. I've got two solutions to two different problems: 1. Templates: I solved this by putting the <$MTBlogURL$> variable before the <$MTEntryTrackbackLink$> like so:
TrackBack URL for this entry:
<$MTBlogURL$><$MTEntryTrackbackLink$> This doubles up a / in the URL but that doesn't matter in practice. So you will need to do this yourself with your particular template. Click "Templates" then the EDIT button by "TrackBack Listing Template" toward the end. 2. Emails: Unfortunately, SixApart decided to construct its emails in code so there's no way of overriding them via templates. Shame. Adding to the (well, my :) confusion, MT Blacklist software additionally replaces core MT code. So I have dived in and fixed the two URLs generated in the "new comment" email notification: the link to the comment itself, and the de-spam link. The code removes the double slash problem here though. Any others I've missed? ** Let me know how it goes... HTH, Paul -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "What is a baboon? Ask again." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ From lists at rosam.com Wed Jun 9 17:34:57 2004 From: lists at rosam.com (David Rosam) Date: Wed Jun 9 17:34:51 2004 Subject: [MT-users] Link redirects and embedded URLs In-Reply-To: <20040608164849.GM26323@mythix.realprogrammers.com> References: <20040607133423.GX14586@mythix.realprogrammers.com> <20040608164849.GM26323@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Message-ID: <1086798897.13513.198089600@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks Paul That really does help. The Blacklist link was what I was moaning about a few months back. Cheers David On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 17:48:49 +0100, "Paul Makepeace" said: > 2. Emails: > > Unfortunately, SixApart decided to construct its emails in code so > there's no way of overriding them via templates. Shame. Adding to the > (well, my :) confusion, MT Blacklist software additionally replaces > core MT code. > > So I have dived in and fixed the two URLs generated in the "new comment" > email notification: the link to the comment itself, and the de-spam > link. The code removes the double slash problem here though. > > Any others I've missed? > > ** > > Let me know how it goes... > > HTH, Paul > > > -- > Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ > > "What is a baboon? Ask again." > -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/ > > _______________________________________________ > MT-users mailing list > MT-users@paulm.com > http://paulm.com/mm/listinfo/mt-users > > From Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com Wed Jun 16 19:04:37 2004 From: Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com (Paul Makepeace) Date: Wed Jun 16 19:04:40 2004 Subject: [MT-users] RE: Movable Type: Licensing Question Message-ID: <20040616180437.GL504@mythix.realprogrammers.com> Check this out. Six Apart no longer want my donated money. Ah well, can't say I didn't try :-) Paul ----- Forwarded message from Six Apart Contact ----- From: Six Apart Contact Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:50:45 -0700 To: paulm-at-paulm.com Subject: RE: Movable Type: Licensing Question Envelope-to: paulm-at-paulm.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.63 Hi Paul, Thank you for your email and sorry for the delay in response. We've been inundated with emails and I appreciate your patience. Yes, we have changed our system and no longer accept donations. I appreciate your efforts though. Why don't you save it and if/when you decide to upgrade, that will help you along. Sincerely, Mie __________________________________________________ mie-at-sixapart.com www.sixapart.com Get your personal weblog at http://www.typepad.com > -----Original Message----- > From: paulm-at-paulm.com [mailto:paulm-at-paulm.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 4:53 AM > To: contact-at-sixapart.com > Subject: Movable Type: Licensing Question > > name: Paul > > email: paulm-at-paulm.com > > comments: I have a 2.661 install and was going to send you $20. Yet I > find info on that on your site hard (impossible, so far) to find. I'm > not using 3.0 nor intend to for some time. > > I wonder how many other donors give up too? > > Paul ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Paul Makepeace .............................. http://paulm.com/inchoate/ "What is foobar foondoggle? Yet another computer language to toy with." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/